WCW: Where The Big Boys Played

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WCW: Where The Big Boys Played Feb 6, 2021 18:00:40 GMT -5 Emperor Ihsahn and FatBagzJones like this

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Feb 6, 2021 15:39:50 GMT -5 FatBagzJones said:

Feb 6, 2021 13:56:49 GMT -5 BobbyTheBrain said:

He was always a joke gimmick anyway, but if I were actually a Wrestler that people took seriously (as seriously as you can take a Wrestler anyway) I'd quit and never wrestle again before I'd do that.

I pretty much wouldn't accept a lame ass gimmick anyhow. If you're gonna give me a corny gimmick that I know has a short self life, I'm not gonna throw my career away like that.

When you say "I'd quit and never wrestle again before I'd do that." You mean losing to Jacqueline or losing to woman in general. Cause Jericho lost to Chyna but was able to rebounce so time later. Obviously Jericho and Disco are on different levels, but what i mean is, if match is done right way and you are good wrestler you could recover from that loss. Plus it's not like Disco didn't try to do anything he walked out on company but since no one gave a shit about him and he need to feed his family he came back.
All that being said, don't get me wrong, I think man losing to woman is stupid and shouldn't been done in first place.

I don't think losing to a Woman in and of itself is a disgrace, but it at least has to be reasonable. Chyna was physically more muscular than Jericho so it wasn't ridiculous to think she could kick his ass. Jacqueline was not a big woman.

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WCW: Where The Big Boys Played Feb 6, 2021 18:04:28 GMT -5 Emperor Ihsahn and FatBagzJones like this

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Feb 6, 2021 16:17:22 GMT -5 Emperor Ihsahn said:

The difference to me is that Chyna was more muscular and bigger than Jericho so in a realistic fight I feel like Chyna would have won anyways.

Right. I don't exactly mind it whenever it's an unusually large woman. Like a Chyna or say an Awesome Kong. Or some bodybuilder chick that's just noticeably a behemoth.

But she can't be of average build or giving away 50 pounds or more and be seen as a credible threat.

It just doesn't make sense visually.

Hell the same goes for Marko Stunt being competitive with people twice his size. It just doesn't make sense.

I know Wrestling has long ago given up on presenting itself as anywhere near realistic, but I wish it hadn't.

There were always things about it that were implausible, but you could lose yourself in it when the performers involved took themselves seriously, and presented themselves seriously. Nobody tries that now. It's a shame. It really is.

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WCW: Where The Big Boys Played Apr 23, 2021 22:26:49 GMT -5 Emperor Ihsahn likes this

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Post by flame3169118 on Apr 23, 2021 22:26:49 GMT -5

Honestly wasn't sure whether to post this here or a new topic:

WGN-TV in Chicago is reporting that former WCW star and NFL legend Steve “Mongo” McMichael has been diagnosed with ALS aka Lou Gehrig’s Disease. McMichael issued a statement…

“I’m not going to be out in the public any more… you’re not going to see me out doing appearances, hell I can’t even sign my name any more, and everybody’s going to be speculating ‘Where’s McMichael, what’s wrong with him?’ I’m here to tell everyone I’ve been diagnosed with ALS, Lou Gehrig’s Disease, so I’m not going to be a public figure any more.”

It was noted that McMichael has lost the use of his arms and hands and uses a customized wheelchair provided to him by the NFL’s Chicago Bears.

McMichael started his WCW career as an announcer on Monday Nitro and then later transitioned to being a wrestler as part of the Four Horsemen.

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Emperor Ihsahn Administrator I am big in Japan! Posts: 10,042	WCW: Where The Big Boys Played Apr 26, 2021 7:04:00 GMT -5 FatBagzJones likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Emperor Ihsahn on Apr 26, 2021 7:04:00 GMT -5 I saw a photo of Mongo recently and it is heartbreaking.

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WCW: Where The Big Boys Played May 3, 2021 19:35:04 GMT -5 Emperor Ihsahn likes this

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Post by BobbyTheBrain on May 3, 2021 19:35:04 GMT -5

I recently completed my WWE released WCW Box set collection the other day.

Best of Nitro Vol. 3 and Best of WCW Pay Per Views is all I was missing. Got 'em both in one setting.

Along with a Goldberg box set

One thing that's really annoying with a WWE released Box set is like the 3rd disc of the Goldberg set is all WWE matches he had. Obviously all you need is the WCW stuff of Goldberg. When he mattered.

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WCW: Where The Big Boys Played May 8, 2021 14:46:52 GMT -5 Emperor Ihsahn likes this

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Post by BobbyTheBrain on May 8, 2021 14:46:52 GMT -5

The Goldberg DVD set is showing me some more nonsense that happened in the Russo era of WCW.

Apparently Sting and Hogan had a match where Hogan laid down for Sting at Halloween Havoc 2000. Goldberg had a match with Sid where it was ended due to Blood.

Sting issues an open challenge. Goldberg accepts. The Commentary crew is told that it's not for the Title apparently, and then Goldberg wins and is declared the new Champion lol. You can hear Bobby Heenan say "Don't look at me" when that happens...and then Sting gets up and attacks the referee.

The crowd is just having virtually no reaction. Just confusion.

So yeah it's just a series of confusing events that make no sense on any level.

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WCW: Where The Big Boys Played May 8, 2021 16:16:56 GMT -5 via mobile

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Post by FatBagzJones on May 8, 2021 16:16:56 GMT -5

May 8, 2021 14:46:52 GMT -5 BobbyTheBrain said:

The Goldberg DVD set is showing me some more nonsense that happened in the Russo era of WCW.

Apparently Sting and Hogan had a match where Hogan laid down for Sting at Halloween Havoc 2000. Goldberg had a match with Sid where it was ended due to Blood.

Sting issues an open challenge. Goldberg accepts. The Commentary crew is told that it's not for the Title apparently, and then Goldberg wins and is declared the new Champion lol. You can hear Bobby Heenan say "Don't look at me" when that happens...and then Sting gets up and attacks the referee.

The crowd is just having virtually no reaction. Just confusion.

So yeah it's just a series of confusing events that make no sense on any level.

I'm reading this, and something just and I can't connect dots, since i remember that Hogan left WCW in July 2000.
You're referencing Halloween Havoc '99.

As far as booking goes, it's easier to figure out how to built rocket ship from scratch than makes sense of late WCW booking.

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May 8, 2021 16:16:56 GMT -5 FatBagzJones said:

May 8, 2021 14:46:52 GMT -5 BobbyTheBrain said:

The Goldberg DVD set is showing me some more nonsense that happened in the Russo era of WCW.

Apparently Sting and Hogan had a match where Hogan laid down for Sting at Halloween Havoc 2000. Goldberg had a match with Sid where it was ended due to Blood.

Sting issues an open challenge. Goldberg accepts. The Commentary crew is told that it's not for the Title apparently, and then Goldberg wins and is declared the new Champion lol. You can hear Bobby Heenan say "Don't look at me" when that happens...and then Sting gets up and attacks the referee.

The crowd is just having virtually no reaction. Just confusion.

So yeah it's just a series of confusing events that make no sense on any level.

I'm reading this, and something just and I can't connect dots, since i remember that Hogan left WCW in July 2000.
You're referencing Halloween Havoc '99.

As far as booking goes, it's easier to figure out how to built rocket ship from scratch than makes sense of late WCW booking.

I couldn't tell if it was '99 or 2000, but the crowd didn't know how to take it I know that.

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WCW: Where The Big Boys Played May 8, 2021 23:11:16 GMT -5 FatBagzJones likes this

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May 8, 2021 17:56:17 GMT -5 BobbyTheBrain said:

May 8, 2021 16:16:56 GMT -5 FatBagzJones said:

I'm reading this, and something just and I can't connect dots, since i remember that Hogan left WCW in July 2000.
You're referencing Halloween Havoc '99.

As far as booking goes, it's easier to figure out how to built rocket ship from scratch than makes sense of late WCW booking.

I couldn't tell if it was '99 or 2000, but the crowd didn't know how to take it I know that.

It was a convoluted (very convoluted at that) way to get from point a to point b: from what I remember the Hogan/Sting match had already been set up prior to Russo coming in, once he did, he basically wanted nothing to do with Hogan and asked him to take some time off, him just laying down was basically that without getting beat decisively. The Goldberg/Sting match was non-sanctioned, but it was the catalyst to set up the next phase, Sting would've still been the Champion when the ref gave Goldberg the belt Sting snapped and assaulted him which led to The Powers that be (Russo) to strip Sting of the belt and set up the tournament for Mayhem. Like I said it's convoluted as fuck, but that's the reasoning behind it was to get the belt off of Sting and set up the tournament.

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BobbyTheBrain Moderator Posts: 4,082	WCW: Where The Big Boys Played May 9, 2021 15:02:57 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by BobbyTheBrain on May 9, 2021 15:02:57 GMT -5 God Russo is terrible. You could come up with something better in 10 minutes.

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WCW: Where The Big Boys Played May 10, 2021 5:24:08 GMT -5

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May 8, 2021 14:46:52 GMT -5 BobbyTheBrain said:

The Goldberg DVD set is showing me some more nonsense that happened in the Russo era of WCW.

Apparently Sting and Hogan had a match where Hogan laid down for Sting at Halloween Havoc 2000. Goldberg had a match with Sid where it was ended due to Blood.

Sting issues an open challenge. Goldberg accepts. The Commentary crew is told that it's not for the Title apparently, and then Goldberg wins and is declared the new Champion lol. You can hear Bobby Heenan say "Don't look at me" when that happens...and then Sting gets up and attacks the referee.

The crowd is just having virtually no reaction. Just confusion.

So yeah it's just a series of confusing events that make no sense on any level.

Yah, I remember that. It was intended to kick off a big angle where Hogan would feud with Russo but it all fell to shit. WCW 2000 was ok for what it was and was underrated but Russo led WCW in late 99 was absolute trash.

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WCW: Where The Big Boys Played May 28, 2021 11:36:13 GMT -5 via mobile Emperor Ihsahn likes this

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Missed by a day but still. Yesterday marked 25 year anniversary of Scott Hall invading WCW Nitro, which led to Kevin Nash arriving in WCW, which led to Hulk Hogan turning heel and joining them and the rest is history.

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WCW: Where The Big Boys Played Apr 24, 2022 13:27:55 GMT -5 Emperor Ihsahn likes this

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Apr 23, 2022 13:06:25 GMT -5 Emperor Ihsahn said:

I've been watching WCW 1991 recently and while a lot of people shit on that era of WCW, for me it was fun. There's so much good stuff in that year if you can ignore the campy cartoon shit.

1991 is better than 1990. 1992 is really exceptional. I'll be perfectly honest....I'm beginning to think 1992 might be the single best year of WCW's history. Obviously financially it wasn't, but as far as just good goddamn wrestling, great matches, good angles...I find a lot to enjoy about 1992.

Since I got almost all of these PPV's all at once I haven't yet had the chance to revisit everything from both years yet, but what I've watched has been a real treat.

1991, 1992 and 1993 is also the years when they did those big WCW vs New Japan Super Shows, and they had a good bit of their talent over here on a regular basis. Flair vs Fujinami is the last feud Flair is involved in before going to WWF.

SuperBrawl 1 which I just watched a while back is excellent, and I love to see those cards BUILD the way they're supposed to. Where each match is either more prestigious or as prestigious as the last. No Title fights on before just plain 'ol matches. I like the card. The way the card moves forward logically.

I don't know if you've watched all of the Clashes, but after you move on from 1991, do yourself a favor and watch Clash of the Champions 19 from 1992. That is as good as almost any card they ever did, and I'm including PPV's. There's a Tag Team Tournament going on, and they cram so much great and memorable stuff onto that 2 hour card it's unbelievable. Even the matches that aren't great per se, you still all time historically significant tag team combinations like Rick Rude & Steve Austin. I can't recommend that card highly enough. Hell I watched it twice within a week of seeing it the first time because I enjoyed it that much lol.

I'll do reviews of the Clashes eventually to because I consider those big cards as well, they weren't always, but that was the original intent. Right now I'm trying not to do the really good ones because I always have a "Save the Best" for last attitude, but I don't know how long I'll be able to suffer through the 1999's and 2000's without going back to the good 'ol days lol.